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Steve Watches Wrestling #4: Samoa Joe vs. Kenta Kobashi 
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Wednesday, April 20th, 2011 | 08:43 pm (UTC)
Anonymous
A great match to be sure, but I personally can't call it the match of the century. I knew Kobashi by name and reputation (big star in Japan, great worker, stiff as hell) but this is the only time I've seen one of his matches. As such, I'm sure I didn't appreciate the significance of spots like Joe's dive. I was a bit more familiar with Samoa Joe but I don't think I had seen more than a dozen of his matches either. So, it's rather amazing how these two made it seem like a culmination of a long, bitter feud to me considering I didn't really know them and they had never worked together before.

On a side note, ROH's production values make it hard for me to watch sometimes. I like watching old ECW matches so it's not like I'm demanding a Wrestlemania level show but ROH just bugs me. Did they have to position the lights so they'd be shinning right in the camera? I don't know if they have different camera models all around ringside or if they didn't while balance or what, but when they cut from shot to shot it looks like they're two different shows. The DVD I saw this match on had pretty mediocre commentary to boot but from what I heard they left the match silent and let it speak for itself on the original DVD.

- SJB
Wednesday, April 20th, 2011 | 09:06 pm (UTC)

It looks like on a lot of ROH stuff from before their run on HDNet they forgot to white balance their cameras. It's actually a lot more noticeable on the first (I think) match in the CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe series than it is in Joe vs. Kobashi. And I agree, it can be distracting.

The thing about ROH that bothers me more than that (and overall I'm a huge fan of the company's stuff) is that some of the workers on its roster, especially the younger guys, still reek of the indies. They don't seem quite ready for prime time, and stick out like sore thumbs when they work on the same shows as guys like Colt Cabana, or Christopher Daniels, or Steve Corino, who really have their shit down and could take the exact same act to WWE tomorrow and get over, given a chance. At its best, ROH reminds me of '80s Jim Crockett Promotions. At its worst, it feels like an indy show with a few extra bucks for production.

What are some matches that do come to your mind as possible matches of the century so far?
Wednesday, April 20th, 2011 | 10:35 pm (UTC)
Anonymous
I stopped watching wrestling regularly in 04 and watched even less after Benoit so I'm probably not the best judge of things. Granted, that's never stopped me before...

I'd leave off anything Benoit was in because hindsight would probably diminish his matches a bit. Plus it would save me from having to type up an even a larger list since he had a ton of great matches. So, I'd nominate;

- Austin vs The Rock from Wrestlemania 17
- Angle vs HBK from Wrestlemania 25 (I think...)
- Angle vs The Undertaker in 2006
- Eddie Guerrero vs Brock Lesnar in 2004
- The first HBK vs Undertaker from Wrestlemania (never saw the second one)
- Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels from some TNA PPV I can't remember.
- ROH vs CZW in a Cage of Death (Of course, this depends on what you think of hardcore wrestling)

- SJB
Wednesday, April 20th, 2011 | 10:44 pm (UTC)
Good list, though I haven't seen the Cage of Death match. I think I'm going to review that Joe vs. Styles vs. Daniels three-way in the next batch of these videos that I tape. That might be the best match TNA has ever put on.
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