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Creationism, hell 
Thursday, June 7th, 2007 | 10:16 am [commentary, religion, science]
Steve
So I wrote this article for American Chronicle yesterday about the new Creation Museum just opened in Kentucky. This sort of thing is deeply offensive to me, not because I have any problem with people believing the Bible is literally true, but because I have a problem with people spending $25,000,000 on a museum to convince other people that it’s literally true. ‘Cause here’s the thing — it ain’t true. Literally. God did not make the world in six days. There was no first day before there was a fucking sun, for Christ’s sake. And the universe is a hell of a lot older than 6,000 years.
 
They put the article online yesterday evening sometime, and already this morning I’ve gotten a few emails about it. One of my responses wound up pretty long and sounding like an essay in its own right, so since I am nothing if not stiflingly lazy, I decided to share the guy’s original email and my response with all (seven) of you.
 
Here’s the email I received from a fellow named Azuros, of indeterminate religion:
 
Now remind me why you feel compelled to write such a useless article regarding a Creationist museum? Do you feel inadequate with your own beliefs? (Is it blind zealotry in evolution or something else?).

Rebuild me the city of Tyre (Not modern day Tyre, but where ancient Tyre once stood). And you can boast.

Ezekiel 26:3-5, Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you O Tyre, and I will bring many nations against you, like the sea casting up its waves. They will destroy the walls of Tyre and pull down her towers; I will scrape away her rubble and make her a bare rock. Out in the sea she will become a place to spread fishing nets, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

Ezekiel 26:14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishing nets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

*Note that Modern day Tyre (Sur, Lebanon) does not negate the prophecy as the locations of the two cities differ. While they are close, they are not the same.

Research that if you want to contend. Let's see what excuse you can come up with. That was not vague. I have provided you with a straight-forward example. The site is habitable; for ten million gallons of water daily gush from the springs, and fertile fields stretch clear to the distant mountains. But yet, there is no city there. No city has been rebuilt. Not where boastful Tyre once stood.

And what is this you quote of Moses? It's simple. They were corrupted and immoral. They were put to death. Much like the city of Sodom was consumed in a vast conflagration (for extensive sexual immorality). God has the right to judgement. They weren't "innocent".

Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no pleasure in understanding. But delights in airing his own opinions.

Try my presentation "Nimrod. And the origin of global Satanic religions". It was designed for a Christian audience but I'm sure you will find it interesting.

And I believe the World was created in Seven days. It just shows how powerful the creator is. And how flawed scientific viewpoints are.

When things explode they usually grow smaller.
None of the mutations observed are beneficial.
Slime's all well and good but it's still far too complex for evolution to handle.

Science is based on observation. Evolution is unscientific since it isn't based on observation. It's merely an excessively flawed theory that masses of unthinking people believe as an alternative to responsibility to God. Fools opinions. Reproduce and observe evolution. You can't.

Understanding. That's what its all about.
If theres a 0.000000(etc... mebbe a few trillion billion million 0's here) .1 chance of evolution happening...
Now the Bible says there's a 100% chance of God existing and creating the world. Immortality thrown in.
That straight-forward Tyre prophecy just happens to back up God.

Which would you place your bet on?
 
Sure makes you want to run right down to your local church and get your ass baptized, don’t it? Here is my lengthy and surprisingly obscenity-free reply:
 
Azuros, thanks for the email. I didn't feel compelled to write the article about the Creation Museum because of any inadequacy in my own beliefs. Rather, it's because I am disappointed and offended that so much time, effort and money is being spent by people like Ken Ham to convince people of supposedly scientific doctrines that are completely untrue.
 
The fact that you believe the prophecy regarding the city of Tyre has been fulfilled has no bearing on whether the Bible is true or not. And even if you honestly consider the murder of probably thousands of women and children by Moses -- women and CHILDREN, most of whom could not possibly have been guilty of the sexual depravities which you assume to be the reason for their execution -- to have been just, how can you also justify Moses's order that they take the virgin daughters to rape for themselves? From this account it is the Jews of Moses, not the Midianites, who are immoral and depraved.
 
That's not the only example of immorality in the Bible. Throughout the Old Testament are examples of generational curses place on people by God himself, children and grandchildren held responsible for crimes their fathers or grandfathers committed, but which they themselves had nothing to do with. The very idea of original sin and the fall of man is tied to this idea, which untold future generations punished because Eve broke a rule and ate a piece of fruit she wasn't supposed to. No system of justice in any civilized society in existence considers this to be a fair and just legal doctrine, to hold people responsible for crimes they had absolutely nothing to do with, which were committed before they were even born. It is contrary to everything fair and moral.
 
The science in the Bible, as I alluded in my article, is no better. In the Genesis account we have God creating the Earth and declaring "Let there be light" before we are told he has created the Sun. This might have been a believable story for a simple people living thousands of years before modern science, people who did not yet understand that the Sun was not just a bright object in the daytime sky, but the source of all natural light on Earth, but in our modern age it must be regarded as a fable. We know that the Earth was not created before the Sun, we know that there certainly could not have been any "days" or "nights" as we understand them in our solar system before the Sun. We know the Genesis account is impossible. It is your right to believe what you wish, and if you take some spiritual instruction from the Genesis creation account, wonderful; but if you believe it to be a literally true description of how the universe was created, you are blind and you are a fool.
 
I notice that you responded to my article with not a single scientific argument, but with a barrage of biblical quotes and religious arguments -- all of which are completely irrelevant. I understand your tactic, though. What other choice did you have? Creationism cannot be proven true by science, because it is science that originally proved it, and continues to prove it, false.
 
You say that evolution cannot be observed, and in a sense you are correct. Since evolution requires millions of years to produce a significant enough change to create a unique species, our human lifespans cannot observe it as it happens. But we can observe it through the fossil record, and, more recently, through the science of genetics, which tells us overwhelmingly that the vast majority of organisms on this planet -- of all kinds, from plants and fish and microscopic bacteria, to dogs and cats, apes and human beings -- share the same DNA. The genetic instructions that define what a paramecium looks like are written in the same language as the human genome, and contain many of the same instructions. Human beings and chimpanzees are so close genetically that the difference between a chimp being able to make only relatively crude vocalizations and humans being able to create complex and intricate languages is only two amino-acid sequences out of 715 in a single gene.
 
To realize that all life on the planet evolved from common ancestors, and that every living thing is connected by its genes to every other living thing, is a wondrous discovery. To realize, further, that the basic elements that make the organic molecules of which we are constructed, as well as every other element on the planet, was created in the burning-hot belly of a star untold billions of years ago, is astonishing. You, I, every living thing on the Earth, the Earth itself, the other planets -- we are all made of star-stuff. This is a scientifically verifiable truth, and more remarkable to me and ennobling to the human condition than any of the meager, vulgar stories in the Bible which men and women like yourself claim to be the word of God.
 
My belief in the things I've written about above does not prevent me from believing in God. Many people who believe in evolution and science do not believe in God, but I do. I believe in a God who is omnipotent, who is as far beyond our comprehension as we are beyond that of a fruitfly. I believe he (if "he" is an appropriate pronoun for God, which I doubt) is fair, and just, and universal. I find nothing of him in the Bible, or the Quran, or any other "revealed" religion. The real God is too big for the greatest of our puny ideas to contain. I see him in the trees, in the grass, in the stars, but I believe he has written no books in human language, dictated no codes of law, revealed no secret futures to prophets. The God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam is an impotent imposter. We will never fully know the real God in this life. It just isn't possible.
 
None of my belief in God is supported by science, by the way. I have no scientific basis for my beliefs whatsoever. But neither do you. The difference between my belief in God and yours is that my God doesn't tell me that those who worship a different God are going to be punished for all eternity. My God doesn't inspire me to make war on people or nations who don't believe in him. My God is not ethnocentric to my own culture. My God does not order his followers not to kill, then send them off on campaigns of mass-murder for his own purpose. My God is not petty and jealous, my God is not vengeful, my God has never flooded the entire world and drowned all of humanity -- men, women, children, infants who could have committed no crime -- except for eight people on a boat. The God of the Bible is not a good God. He is cruel, sadistic, bloodthirsty. He is evil. He's your God. He's not mine. You can have him.
 
Sorry for going on so long, Azuros. Apparently I had a lot to say. Thanks for reading, have a good day.
 
--Steve
 
I’m not anywhere near as smart as Carl Sagan or Tom Paine, but can I fake it all right? Speaking of Paine, if you haven’t read The Age of Reason, do so. It’s not only a savage and immensely satisfying vivisection of the Bible, it’s also a beautifully written personal expression of Paine’s own faith in God, whom he found not in holy books but in science and nature. It’s been over 200 years since he wrote it, and it’s still fresh and fascinating — and surprising — I never realized what a prick Moses was.
Comments 
Thursday, June 7th, 2007 | 08:24 pm (UTC)
thanks a lot for writing about this
I will give your article and response more attention when I have time
these days I feel it is very important to point out idiocy, ignorance and
superstition and defend the rational sane point of view
so more power to you
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